Pregnant and Most-wanted?

by tristan B on October 18, 2013 - 5:02pm

In the article on BBC News written by Nina Lakhani, the situation of abortion that El Salvador is facing is exposed. It is said that women have the obligation to keep a baby if pregnant, and therefore abortion is illegal. Not only it is illegal but the women who are denouced are accused of murder of their child, and a case of miscarrying is therefore considered suspicious. Women who are denouced are sent to women's prison where they face their sentence for years. Even if a women is pregant by the result of a rape, abortion is not accepted. It is noted that in an important part of the women facing this case have common links, they are mostly not educated very well, poor and unmarried, and most of the cases are denouced by public hospitals and never private ones. Having a baby is not necessarly the number one choice for women in a such situation. Also, currently El Salvador is not the only country to impose this severe law, Nicaragua, Chile, Honduras and Dominican Republic are in favor too.

Knowing this, I think that this article noted majorly shocking facts. First of all, the most important point that really needs to change is abortion in the case of a rape. In no condition a women being raped should be forced to keep an unwanted baby. Not only it can ruins the mother's life but the baby will not be in the greatest conditions either. Having a baby should be a decision took by two parents and not by the government. It is totally innaceptable to judged someone to go in jail in the case of a sexual abuse. I think that El Salvador are being too severe about abortion. Instead of completely illegalize it, maybe they could put abortion legal to a certain point such as, up to a certain number of months of pregnancy, abortion could be legalized. I think that a society where abortion is completely not tolerated can lead the society poorly because if the ''unwanted children'' are not being well educated and have a bad childhood, and they still represent the next generation who needs to help the society economically and socially. We do not choose our parents, therefore it is important to grow a child into a situation where he or she can grow up safely. Abortion should be more tolerated for the good of the society.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24532694

Comments

I agree with your opinion when you said that women shouldn’t be obligated to keep their baby when they have been rapped. I feel like if El Salvador wants to keep their country pro-life than they should alter the law so that if a women is sexual assaulted, they need to provide a police report stating that this action occurred. The reason for doing this would be because then just anyone could say they have been rapped just in order to abort their pregnancy. Then the women would have so many weeks to make the decision to end the pregnancy before she is obligated to keep the baby. In my town you don’t hear a lot about abortions but I have shaped my beliefs and morals on the situation through my family’s morals and beliefs. My opinion is that everyone should be able to make decisions on their own and the government shouldn’t interfere with something this personal.

I chose to comment on this because I had no idea that this was something that was happen in South America. It unbelievable that the little things that are available to us, we take for granted. Abortion being one thing that we do not much attention to, is something that is not legal everywhere. In North America, abortion is legal pretty much everywhere. As women you know that you have that option if ever you needed it. The right to have that decision is something we take for granted. I believe that every woman should have the right to have that decision. I totally agree with you on the fact that women that get raped should have the right to get an abortion. The only problem is that woman that did not get rape and want to get an abortion might start lying about what truly happened. Like you said, they should make abortion legal for the first couple of month. I do not believe that it is up to the government to decide the faith of women. I believe that the woman herself should have the right to decide her own faith.

I don't fully approve the act of aborting a child, but I do approve of it when it comes to situations such as rape or incest. The Salvadoran women are basically being forbidden of making their own choices with their own bodies... this is taking away their civil rights. Also, considering that it is mostly teenagers that are poor or uneducated that have an unwanted pregnancy, I don't believe that it is the best decision for them to keep their child, especially in these conditions. A child should be first of all 'wanted', and secondly assured to have loving parents and a satisfying lifestyle. Also,for situations such as rape, women will probably have issues with accepting their child as it may remind them of bad memories. In addition, the fact that miscarriages are considered suspicious is, in my opinion, ridiculous. Women that have miscarriages are often terribly affected and disappointed... they don't need to have suspicions from the government and the people around them. I agree, abortion should be tolerated, and I find it disappointing that may other countries are taking El Salvador's example.

I don't agree with the idea of such strict abortion laws in El Salvador at all. I believe that in the end it is ultimately the woman's decision of what they do. While i don't agree with abortions when two adults make a "mistake", i do agree with it in the case of rape, or if the baby or mother's life is dangerous. I think that the government should realize that things do happen and you can't force them to keep their children. I do agree with the point that you make that woman that are forced to keep and have their children, has led to unwanted children, which ultimately leads to uneducated, and further poverty.
I also wonder about if the woman are forced to have children that they don't want, are there a lot of abandoned or orphaned children? and if so what are the adoption rates, and pediatric death rates like there? It's a sad concept to think about.

I completely disagree with El Salvador’s abortion laws. Under no circumstance should a woman who has been raped be forced to keep a child let alone be imprisoned for choosing abortion. A woman should not be punished for doing what is best for not only the baby, but herself too. Keeping a child caused from rape constantly reminds the woman of the event creating emotional issues not only for the woman but eventually the child as well. In most cases of rape the rapists aren’t going to stick around to support the child in any manner. If a woman is not intending on having a baby because she is unable to take care of one on her own and is raped into pregnancy there is a good chance that the child will not have the proper necessities. Although I’m sure in some cases it is constitutional, miscarriages being considered suspicious makes me sick. Women who have miscarriages are affected greatly. To have suspicions from the government is ridiculous. I believe in pro-choice therefore I think abortion should be legal, but to a certain extent. For example, there needs to be limits to abortions. Women cannot be having abortions left and right, and abortion cannot be used as a form of birth control. There needs to be evidence that the parent is not suited to have a child. I do not believe that the government should have this much control over women and their decisions when it comes to abortion. It is ultimately the women’s body and her choice as to whether or not she can care for a child. It is sad and disappointing that other countries are following the path that El Salvador has taken.

I agree completely, El Salvador is not being very understanding of the need for abortions. I think there needs to be some tolerance for the situation especially for the women who are raped and impregnated, they have every right to decide whether they want to keep the baby or not. That is a physically and mentally taxing situation, not just for the woman but for the baby. I believe in pro-choice and that everyone should be able to make decisions for their own body; the government should have no control over what decisions woman choose to make for themselves. It’s not as though the government is going to hand over the means to take care of the children that the raped women are carrying.

i agree very much with this post. abortion should not be a right of the government. why should the government dictate how people should live their lives? it should be the right of the women who are the ones carrying a baby. they are the ones who have to nurture and care for their baby not the officials in the government. i agree with the idea of abortion to a certain extent because at the end of the day it still is the act of KILLING an unborn child, but i think in a special certain circumstance abortion should be allowed, for example rape. an unwanted sexual act or encounter, which can scar someone for the rest of their life. that is a very serious situation and a child being born out of rape is bound to cause serious problems psychologically, mentally and economically for both the mother and child. a child should not be born in an unfit environment. the people who choose to participate in the abortion have a reason behind it and most of the time it is because the child will not get adequate care, so why force someone to keep a child if the child's life is just going to end up terrible? i normally don't agree with the idea of abortion because that is the act of killing a unborn life. if we were all products of abortion, a lot of people would not be around today. that is a life lost. in my family we also don't believe in abortion, even if a child was unplanned, the thought of abortion would not even be an option. my grandma had 6 kids and only 4 of them were planned and she did not even think about aborting any of them.

The fact that abortion is even a topic of debate is ridiculous to me. I understand that in different countries there are different cultural norms and expectations, but this is unbelievable that a woman can be jailed for having an abortion. I agree completely that this is detrimental for the children. If a woman is uneducated and unable to provide for the child, the child is going to face extreme struggles at a young age and may become psychologically as well as physically damaged. I also believe that this law could lead to absolute poverty for many families with several children. If a woman decides that she is not ready to have a child or the pregnancy is forced or unexpected, the woman should have the right to terminate the pregnancy. I do not agree that abortion should only be allowed in cases of rape because I don't believe that there should be any constraints at all. The several ways that woman are oppressed in El Salvador is unbelievable and unfair. The extreme patriarchy is dangerous to all females as they are completely unable to stand up for themselves without being severely punished by male leaders.

The fact that abortion is even a topic of debate is ridiculous to me. I understand that in different countries there are different cultural norms and expectations, but this is unbelievable that a woman can be jailed for having an abortion. I agree completely that this is detrimental for the children. If a woman is uneducated and unable to provide for the child, the child is going to face extreme struggles at a young age and may become psychologically as well as physically damaged. I also believe that this law could lead to absolute poverty for many families with several children. If a woman decides that she is not ready to have a child or the pregnancy is forced or unexpected, the woman should have the right to terminate the pregnancy. I do not agree that abortion should only be allowed in cases of rape because I don't believe that there should be any constraints at all. The several ways that woman are oppressed in El Salvador is unbelievable and unfair. The extreme patriarchy is dangerous to all females as they are completely unable to stand up for themselves without being severely punished by male leaders.

While I was looking through the posts this one stuck out the most to me. I thought about how someone who is pregnant could actually be most-wanted as well. Maybe they stole from a store or they didn’t file their taxes. Still what I read was not what I had intended it to be. In the article, it was illegal to abort a child in El Salvador however if it was a miscarriage it would be ‘considered suspicious’. Even if a woman is raped, she still couldn’t have an abortion. I never knew this was an issue in other countries. This made me think about Christina, a friend of mine, from my neighborhood. She is an older woman and is a mother of one child. Christina and her husband decided to have another child. Several months into the pregnancy, she began to have complications within the pregnancy. It came to the point where they had to remove the fetus because it would’ve killed her. Some cases in the article showcased women, who were unaware of being pregnant and had spontaneous miscarriages, being sent to prison. They were misconstrued as loose women who purposely killed their own babies. These women are sent to prison for years and sometimes the scientific evidence is not put into account. Just to think that Christina could’ve died if she had lived in El Salvador is unbelievable. This was an excellent and informative post I just hope that in the near future the circumstances of women in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile and other South American countries.

I think there are so many smaller issues in this situation that accumulates into a colossal problem for both women and children. Abortion is a major social topic in the US, and I have thought a lot about both sides. I completely agree that these laws are drastic and extremely harsh. Rape specifically already takes an emotional and physical toll on its victims, and not only should women not be forced to keep a baby created from rape, a baby should not have to be born a product of rape. A baby already makes the wounds of rape deeper, but actually raising a child under that broken mindset is detrimental to both lives. I have read these statistics before, and I thought they would work well with this topic: women with no schooling have an average of 4.5 children as opposed to women with one or two years of college having an average of 1.7 children, according to the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Austria (Engelman, 2009, p.5). The issue of education hurts both women and children because the less educated, the less able to provide for the larger number of children. Overall I think your article and argument really explain that banning abortion actually hurts more than it helps, and the threat of such harsh punishment makes the already difficult situation so much worse. The only question I would have is that adoption has always been the alternative to abortion in the US, and you mentioned that women have an obligation to keep the children, but is the adoption option available to the women of El Salvador, or are there repercussions for that as well?

Engelman, R. (2009, June). Population and sustainability: Can we avoid limiting the number of people? Retrieved from http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/overpopulation/pdfs/SciAm06...

I completely agree with you. When a child is born of say rape, and the mother is forced to keep the child it takes its toll on both the mom and the kid. This can lead to problems in the family and overall negatively effect society, it becomes a vicious circle and wont stop until someone realizes that things need to change and open up to new ideas. And to punish a women just because she had an abortion? To imprison someone who could have been raped and didn't want the reminder to stay with them, get put in prison is just wrong.

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