Ice Cream and Crime

by heather_thurber on October 4, 2016 - 1:18am

An issue in society that has only been growing involves the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) community. The first public battle that I can remember, was fighting for social acceptance for lesbians, gays, and those who are bisexual. The next, was gay marriage. Currently, the social issue that seems to be everywhere is relating to those who are transgender. The issue has grown since those individuals now would like to be able to use the bathroom of their choice. Now I tend to stay away from this social topic, but an article struck my attention and I have now decided to go further into this societal controversy. The article on the Newsweek website, “Denying transgender people bathroom access is linked to suicide,” caught my attention as it probably would anyone. The title caught my attention because of how simply bizarre the idea that bathroom access could ever be linked to suicide rates.

The theory reminded me of a case that my Criminal Justice teacher had once told me. The theory suggested that crime goes up when ice cream sales go up. So, ice cream influences crime and violence. This theory will seem bizarre to almost anyone, and that’s because, well, it is. Two variables can either increase or decrease around the same time period, however that does not mean that they have something to do with each other directly. Those two variables, may just have an independent variable that was not taken into account. In this example, the variable that was not taken into account was weather. So here are the two actual theories: “If the weather is nice, then ice cream sales will go up.” And, “If the weather is nice, then crime rates will go up.” These theories make more sense. There are ice cream places that open seasonally because it is a statistic that individuals enjoy ice cream more on a hot day opposed to a snow day. I attended the North Providence Citizens Police Academy. During one of these classes, the officers shared with us the patrol times, and also times that more or less police officers are needed on duty. An officer stated that there are less officers working on rainy days, because crime tends to go down during such weather. This proves that crime is and can be influenced by the weather.

Now relating back to the article, I think it is safe to say that there is more to it than just denied usage of the bathrooms causing suicide attempts. For instance, it is not the denied usage, but instead the denied acceptance for who they believe they are. Stress that is caused comes from the lack of feeling accepting. Verbal and physical attacks do not only happen in a bathroom setting, they can happen anywhere. Image this: You have one main branch. Then there are numerous branches that are all stemmed from that one main branch because they all in the end mean that one thing. The main branch represents those individuals not feeling accepted. Then each branch that is stemmed off from that main branch, is only an example, or a reason to why they do not feel accepted. So, the denied usage of their desired bathroom is a branch that is stemmed from the main branch. Overall, not feeling accepted causes suicide attempts, not specifically denied access of a bathroom.

Further into the article, the author seems to be trying to express that those who are transgender need their own bathroom. They need their own bathroom because they do not feel safe, and comfortable in the bathrooms that they have to use. Basically, it went from they want the choice to use whatever bathroom they have associated their gender with, to they need their own. My issue with this, is that the main goal is to have social acceptance. I think back to “separate, but equal” when the article began suggesting that they need their own bathroom. Providing their own bathroom isn’t going to stop the verbal and physical attacks everywhere else. This will only create a divide further. Now I am not saying that people should be able to use whatever bathroom they desire, because I feel that could lead to other issues. I believe that we need to go back to square one. What is the reasoning that we have created these separate bathrooms? Is it because of our body parts? Is it because of sexuality? What issues will arise if we have gender mutual bathrooms? Should we have only single stall gender mutual bathrooms opposed to the multiple stall bathrooms? I encourage you all to read the article, and gather your own opinions regarding this societal issue.

 

 Kutner, M. (2016). Denying transgender people bathroom access is linked to suicide. Retrieved October 04, 2016, from http://www.newsweek.com/transgender-bathroom-law-study-suicide-454185 

Comments

Wow oh wow. What drew me into this post was how you compared ice cream to crime in your title. When I first started to read your post, it was clear to me that the LGBT community is not being treated correctly. It comes to my attention that there is a huge social issue world wide on transgender people. I believe that everyone should be treated equal no matter what gender or race you are. It is not right how the LGBT community gets slammed everyday for being different. I personally am all for lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and trandgenders. They are people just like us. My aunt is a lesbian and she is one of the greatest people I have ever met. When she takes me shopping it sickens me how people stare or make comments. I also of plenty of friends who are gay and once again I have absolutely no problem with it at all. Now regarding the whole bathroom situation with transgender people, I have mixed feelings. I think that if you are born a male, us the mens room. You can still dress like a women, but you do have the male parts. Same goes for women. I also do not see an issue if trandgenders were to have their on bathroom. It makes me sad though that they are not comfortable enough with themselves to use a normal bathroom. Using the bathroom should never determine whether someone is suicidal, that is not okay and blows my mind. Society needs to get over itself.

When I first saw your title, I was intrigued. The fact that you compared crime and ice cream was actually interesting. While I was a little confused at the beginning, when I started to read your post, it was clear that the LGBT community is not being treated as fairly as they should be. I know that this is a big social issue that is spread world wide and that there are many different opinions about it. I find that is it wrong how the LGBT community get criticized everyday just because people view them as different. I am a firm believer that everyone should be treated no matter how different people view them to be. Many of my friends are bisexual, lesbian, gay and transgender. I have no problem with it at all. In regards to the bathroom for the trans gendered. Even is you are a male dressed up like a girl, physically you are still a male. Therefore you should use the male's restroom. While it does make me sad that these people are to scared or ashamed of themselves to use a regular bathroom, it should not make people want to commit suicide. It's just plain ridiculous to me. Your post actually made me want to read your article so that I could find out more about it. When you said that " it is not the denied usage, but instead the denied acceptance for who they believe they are." It made me think about how in my class, my teacher told my class that the dominant group will create a social construct that will benefit them. People only think that being gay, trans gendered or lesbian is wrong because the dominant group says that it is wrong. In the end, your post was really good, but next time make it a little more clear about what your subject is. Because your title was a little misleading.

What originally drew me to your post was the title that you chose, comparing ice cream to crime. But when I started to read your post and saw that it talked about LGBT+ rights, I became even more intrigued. While I was reading, it became clear to me that the LGBT+ community, more specifically the transgender community mentioned in your article, was not being treated the same as everybody else. I am entirely for the equal treatment of any human being, regardless of their race, gender, or their sexuality. But the subject of what bathroom a transgender should use is, of course, a controversial subject since opinions vary greatly depending on who you ask. My opinion on this is that bathrooms are entirely dependent on what genitals you have, no matter how you look that day and I understand why some people get bothered over this subject since people feel vulnerable when using the bathroom. This relates to a concept mentioned in my class which explains how the dominant group enforces their beliefs on the minority group, not because it is the right thing to do, but because they believe that it is how things should be. One thing that I found was off about your post was how the title was a little misleading, since it mentions crime but the main focus of your post is LGTB+ rights. Next time it would be good to be a little clearer. Yet this made me want to read the article since you related the correlation of crime and ice cream, to the correlation of transgenders being denied certain bathrooms to suicides.

The title of your article really caught my attention because I am addict to ice cream and I also work in a dairy, so I was intrigued. As I read the article, I understood the link you wanted to make, and I enjoyed the subject you treated. LGBT is an issue that I like to learn about because I sometimes don't realise how the things that seem the most basic to me can cause damage or affect the life of other people. This is obviously the case with the different vision that transgender have of the two genders bathroom compared to my vision of it. This seems just normal to me, because I am not aware of their reality.

As you mention in your article, we cannot say that ice cream is directly linked to crime or that transgender commit suicide only because there is no bathrooms for people like them. I found it very interesting that you link this issue of looking carefully at the third variable to a lesson that you had learn in one of your previous class. I do not always think of it, but sometimes when we read article or when we listen to the news, we just take the information and we do not really reflect on it, which is a thing that we must do, I think.

Finally, I really liked your article because not only it made me reflect about the vision I have on this issue, but it also made me think of race and racism. I believe that transgender may live some situations that are similar to those lived by racial minorities. The society decides of what is good for us, and it does not always benefit everyone, and that is true for transgender, but also for racial groups.

Thank you for this vey thoughtful post!

This topic was very interesting for me on a more personal level. I was intrigued to the original post because the two concepts chosen; Crime rates and Ice Cream are completely two separate topics. Relating the two seem almost impossible to do. My reaction to this post was like anyone else’s I’m sure; confused at the beginning but once ice cream was shown how it connected to crimes and violence rates increasing, it was completely understandable. My reaction to the ending was normal as I completely agree with your statement about whether or not we should have gender neutral washrooms. This comment reminded me of another social inequality. In my class, the topic of slavery came up and somehow I made a connection between the two. Both slaves and LGBT’s both have the same issue going for them. Slaves were separated from the white people who were the minority, and LGBT’s are separated based on their genders. People who were chosen as slaves stood out seeing that they were more often than not a different pigmentation colour. Just like the LGBT’s do since society says it’s okay to do so. Once again we still prove to be focused on dividing and separating people based on their physical appearances. Slaves were treated unfairly then just like LGBT’s are treated unfairly now in our communities.

When I first looked at the title of this post, I was intrigued. How could ice cream and crime possibly correlate? But when I actually started reading your article, everything became clear. This was a very elaborate metaphor that made a great deal of sense that I was able to understand exactly where you were coming from. Knowing several members of the LGBT community and talking to them on a personal level, particularly in one of my high school classes a few years back, I can agree with you wholeheartedly that you are correct in the idea that acceptance is the most sought after feeling for all people. If they don't feel accepted, this can lead to suicidal actions, not only in this community, but for everyone. This hits home and makes me feel that we should all be accepting of each other, whether it's different preference, race, religion, or anything else that makes us different. Differences do not always have to divide us, but they can bring us closer together, in order to make us more of a united community.

Obviously, what drew me into this article was the title, “Ice cream and Crime”. I thought to myself, how can these two polar opposite things have a correlation or play a prevalent part in society involving race or racism. Transgender bathroom access definitely never crossed my mind when viewing this title. Personally, I was a little confused behind the logic for the title, but I definitely get the point you're trying to make. I can relate to what you had to say in the article because I too wrote a recent post about people in society who suffer from depression caused by the lack of feeling accepted by others. They also go to extreme lengths due this this lack of social acceptance. For example, you mentioned suicide attempts. Therefore, being denied your bathroom of choice can have such an effect. I like how you highlighted transgender rights and compared it to “separate, but equal” because transgender individuals just want to be treated with the same respect like everyone else. Is that so much to ask for? Apparently in today’s day and age, it sadly is.
I liked how you added numerous questions at the end of the post. I can now see that you were trying to create a debate so the viewer could really start to think about the issue and consider things they didn't even realize was an issue in the first place. You're almost making the viewer take a stand in their opinion, even if they might not have one yet. It’s clear that people in the LGBT community are not treated equally. Personally, I don’t see what all the fuss is about. It’s obvious that you're very passionate about this issue and I would love if you expanded on some of your ideas in depth because I’m interested in what you have to say about the topic. All in all, the transgender community has to fight for identity, acceptance, authenticity, and equality. Fighting for the bathroom access of their choice should not be another thing added to that list.

The title of your response drew me into reading your post. I thought that your analogy was really cool. I really enjoyed reading about how the article's author thought that the transgender bathroom issue increased the amount of suicides. I agreed with her thought on how it is unfair to relate the two things together and that is too broad. She went back to talking about how their was an analogy she had learned in one of her classes about how as ice cream prices went up so did the crime rates. I really liked how she connected it back to the original article. I also liked the questions at the end of the post because it really made me think. This post was very relatable to what is happening in society now and was a very interesting read.

Your post is filled with so many interesting and awesome ideas. This issue is definitely something of cultural importance, and I loved how you started your post by relating it to something so unique and different. By relating it to the correlation between ice cream and crime, readers definitely are forced to think and their horizons are broadened. However, I feel like this post could be improved if you narrowed in on something to go in depth on. Although all of your thoughts and ideas are extremely well written, there is a lot going on which could be overwhelming for readers. Content wise, this issue is definitely controversial. Both sides of the issue are understandable. Regardless of being transgender or not, everyone has experienced to at least some degree a lack of acceptance. As judgmental as society is, I cannot imagine how it feels to feel like you were born in the wrong body, let alone having to deal with how society views your lifestyle. Keeping this in mind, it is easy to see why something like a bathroom could be so impactful and makes me want to say that they should be able to use whatever bathroom they choose. But then on the other side, I believe that they should not be able to. My parents and I were just recently discussing this issue, and they told me something I will never be able to forget. Imagine you are a parent of an eight year old daughter. Would you want her going to the restroom with a forty year old man who is not transgender but just taking advantage of the law? Because of this point, I do not think they should be able to use whichever bathroom. All of the information you gave was insightful and opens doors for a great conversation!

The thing that drew me in to this post was the odd title finding it strange yet intriguing. Reading the summary I couldn’t help but think of some slangs and cusses I heard back in Elementary school. After reading this article I can say that I was quite baffled by the way it started though not in a bad way. It was a bit funny especially when it got to the bathroom part and how people believed that bathroom choices were causes of suicide. That honestly surprised me and I couldn’t help but laugh. But in all honesty I did not know that the views of gender was that skewed up. I agree that there should be bathrooms that have more options than just boy and girl since there are people who just don’t fit into those two. This article reminds me of one subject in my class about how complicated and skewed up the term ‘race’ is and also on another subject about how people are just not accepted due to something stupid like their skin colour and end up creating lies that are just as stupid if not stupider than the truth. Anyway under different circumstances an article like this wouldn’t have interest me though it’s unique way of writing had me interested.

The title of this post drew me in right away, because I wondered what the relevance was between ice cream and crime. This post has a lot of cool and eye-opening ideas I would never have thought of otherwise. I agree with the points you made saying that people should be able to use whichever bathroom they prefer. People don't really think about how something that seems so insignificant could so strongly impact a person who is target to discrimination based on their gender identity. I really liked the analogy used and I think it truly gets across this important message.

I was obviously drawn to this post because of the interesting title. However, I was taken back upon discovering the article was barely about ice cream but more about transgender issues. Although I do love ice cream, I was still very interested in this post because transgender issues are something many are afraid to talk about. I think your perspective on transgender issues and how bathrooms could be linked to suicide rates is spot on. I say this because I have a friend who is transgender. When we stayed after school together one day, he had to use the bathroom but decided he would rather hold it than choose which bathroom to use. He felt that he would be judged by anyone who came in the bathroom regardless of which one he entered. Having these bathrooms is definitely correlated to whether or not they feel accepted into the community. Your ice cream analogy was a great way to catch attention and use that to provide perspective on an important issue.

Your post has such an eye caching and suspenseful title! However, I do think that it's important to realize what exactly started the division of gender bathrooms in the first place. According to Time, women’s facilities were set into public areas because the patriarchal ideology of the time was that they belonged at home. Therefore according to policy makers, in public they required protected and isolated areas because of their weaker inherited qualities. With feminism, our views on women have widely change however sex-segregated bathrooms are still omnipresent, which result in much debate. It may seem natural and practical that bathrooms are divided by sex, restrooms are a place to refresh in private away from the eyes of the rest of the world. However, with the LGBTQ and widespread feminism coming into prominence, the question now is if they should become gender-neutral. Transgender people are fighting for gender-neutral bathrooms as they face verbal abuse and legal bans on their choice of wanting to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity. A right of choice is taken away from these people so unfairly and in our current society, we should focus on progressing and entertaining the idea of diversity and fighting oppression. Certain current politicians argue that same-sex bathrooms will lead to endangering women, in fear that sexual predators can use these bathrooms to find their prey, but unfortunately the dangers against women are exposed to them on a daily basis, and a gender-sign won’t stop the criminal from committing their crime.

Works Cited
"Why Do We Have Men's and Women's Bathrooms Anyway?" Time. Time, n.d. Web. 12 Oct. 2016.

http://time.com/4337761/history-sex-segregated-bathrooms/

Your post has such an eye caching and suspenseful title! However, I do think that it's important to realize what exactly started the division of gender bathrooms in the first place. According to Time, women’s facilities were set into public areas because the patriarchal ideology of the time was that they belonged at home. Therefore according to policy makers, in public they required protected and isolated areas because of their weaker inherited qualities. With feminism, our views on women have widely change however sex-segregated bathrooms are still omnipresent, which result in much debate. It may seem natural and practical that bathrooms are divided by sex, restrooms are a place to refresh in private away from the eyes of the rest of the world. However, with the LGBTQ and widespread feminism coming into prominence, the question now is if they should become gender-neutral. Transgender people are fighting for gender-neutral bathrooms as they face verbal abuse and legal bans on their choice of wanting to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender identity. A right of choice is taken away from these people so unfairly and in our current society, we should focus on progressing and entertaining the idea of diversity and fighting oppression. Certain current politicians argue that same-sex bathrooms will lead to endangering women, in fear that sexual predators can use these bathrooms to find their prey, but unfortunately the dangers against women are exposed to them on a daily basis, and a gender-sign won’t stop the criminal from committing their crime.

Works Cited
"Why Do We Have Men's and Women's Bathrooms Anyway?" Time. Time, n.d. Web. 12 Oct. 2016.

http://time.com/4337761/history-sex-segregated-bathrooms/

The title drew my attention and you make a clear statement that usage Iof the bathroom is not the core issue of LGTB groups. Personally, I totally agree with what you said that the most important way to solve LGTB problems is raising social acceptance. However, I think that encourage the usage of the transgender bathroom is indeed a way to raise social acceptance. Gender binarism has always been the main norm of our society, and the existence of transgender bathroom challenges this idea. Therefore, the usage of the bathroom and the social acceptance should be linked with each other. The usage of the transgender bathroom is not only about identity approval but also safety consideration as a human being. Although people are more gentle about others' gender expression as the society moving forward, there are still people out there who discriminate and even be violent to transgender people. If a transgender people goes to the bathroom that associated with his/her gender identity, there is a chance for him/her harmed by people who do not accept his/her gender expression, verbally or physically. Considered of two reasons I mentioned above, I think that transgender bathroom is necessarily for the progress of LGTB's rights. I would even suggest not only establish a "gender neutral bathroom" but also "MTF bathroom" and "FTM bathroom" due to the safety consideration. I don't think separation stands for inequality because male and female bathrooms are initially separated not for a discriminated reason. It is simply a society norm to have two different bathrooms and we can change two to four to five or even more. Division of bathrooms based on gender should be a way to raise people's acceptance of transgender people and let this idea becomes a new society norm that everyone could be anyone they want.
Here is a interesting video that talks about this issue: https://youtu.be/XAcARiiK5uYC
Check it out

I believe that this post has a very innovative way of thinking! Based on your title I thought this article was going in a completely different direction than it did in a positive way. I would not have thought that ice cream was a technique you used to represent true underlying factors in situations of crime like the weather. I thought you used an excellent analogy to inform me of what is really causing suicide rates to heighten. It's not that transgender people cannot use the bathroom they choose, it's the result that is coming from that. By being rejected from bathroom norms they feel stress and in-acceptance in society which in terms makes them suicidal. I can relate to this issue from events that happened in my high school. Transgender people felt rejected from male/female bathrooms at my school as well and petitioned for a gender neutral bathroom. A lot of people signed this petition including myself to make everyone feel more comfortable. My issue with this arises when people are not transgender use that gender neutral bathroom and transgender people get mad. The bathroom is gender neutral meaning anyone boy/girl/trans can use it. Transgender people are behaving the same way they said we were behaving when they used the normal boy/girl bathrooms. They are saying we cannot use their bathroom and this shocks me because it creates a further division between boy/girl and transgender people instead of implementing equality. The bathroom situation is in fact just one of the underlying problems in the grand issue of gender equality. To access equality, we have to stop building barriers.

Wow I really liked your post because you bring up some really good points. I especially liked the way you used the case of ice cream sales and crime rates to explain the link between transgender peoples’ access to bathrooms and suicide, my high school law and economics teacher also used that case to explain how there isn’t just one variable. As you had mentioned throughout your post “it is not the denied usage, but instead acceptance of who they believe they are.” It is true and this happens not only to transgenders’ but also to people with different sexual orientation and people who are from minority races. This brings me to the term intersectionality, which is how different systems of inequality, discrimination, or oppression – such as racism, sexism, or homophobia – will overlap to consequently reinforce each other. If we were to take for example, a transgender person who is also a minority in society, not only would they be getting oppressed for being a minority but also for being transgender. This causes even more problems and they all lead to the same outcome of an even bigger increase in suicide. In the article attached below, it talks about suicide rates with transgender people in correlation with different variables. It also mentions how the risks for suicide aren’t about being transgender because there is nothing actually wrong with being a transgender. The real issue is what is being done to transgenders and the only people who can escape from this discrimination are the privileged, which are straight white males.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/the-truth-about-transgend_...

Tannehill, Brynn. “The Truth About Transgender Suicide.” The Huffington Post, TheHuffingtonPost.com, 2 Feb. 2016.

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